From Passion To Purpose: How One Woman's Journey Will Inspire You To Chase Your Dreams

[00:00:03] You Are Listening To Resilient Life, The Podcast, Where We Explore The Power of Resiliency.

[00:00:10] I'm Nikita Ross.

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[00:00:32] I am so excited about today's guests.

[00:00:35] I've been awkwardly introduced way to many times to do it to someone else.

[00:00:41] So please introduce yourself, tell us your name, your chosen profession, your passions,

[00:00:47] anything you want to share about yourself.

[00:00:48] It's good, well thank you for having me first of all.

[00:00:51] And my name is Ermi.

[00:00:53] I am based in Montreal.

[00:00:55] I work full time with the financial sector, but I consider myself a woman who wears many hats.

[00:01:01] I am a self-ablished author, mentor, blogger, YouTuber.

[00:01:08] And I am an advocate of women's empowerment and I am part of two organizations right now.

[00:01:13] One of them is called Women in Leadership.

[00:01:15] I'm willing to, is the social medial lead and the second one is called Influence and I am the

[00:01:20] campaign manager of the disorganization.

[00:01:22] So it sounds like you're very busy.

[00:01:24] I am so impressed by your passion, by your.

[00:01:27] I did a little bit of researching, by your work ethic, by your desire to improve the life

[00:01:34] of the lives of women.

[00:01:35] And so you could tell me a little bit about what, how did you get into wanting to help

[00:01:41] women be their best best selves?

[00:01:43] How did she get into that?

[00:01:43] I had a basic study for my own personal experience where I felt like, you know, I wanted,

[00:01:51] I was not getting that type of help in essence.

[00:01:54] Like I did not have any woman to look up to when I was growing up.

[00:01:59] And I always was seeking for a mentor as I was, you know, growing up going to school

[00:02:04] and think like that's to do with no opportunity for me to find a mentor or an older sister.

[00:02:09] So then as I grew up, I was like, you know what, I can be the mentor that I never had.

[00:02:13] And so then that's how I started to pursue things like women's empowerment,

[00:02:17] by new organization dedicated to gender equality.

[00:02:20] And a lot of the organizations that I've been part of basically stem from this fact.

[00:02:25] Like I am part of this, this organizations because I want to give back.

[00:02:30] And I do very much in drawing mentoring, like mentoring has been a big part of my life

[00:02:34] because as I started to work even when I was in university, like I finally had mentors

[00:02:41] and people that I could look up to.

[00:02:43] And then I was like, you know what, another I worked full time.

[00:02:45] I want to give back my time by helping other people and one of those, one of those people are actually women

[00:02:52] that I feel like sometimes, you know, we don't get enough, you know, help and support and guidance

[00:02:56] as much as we should. And I want to be there for these people.

[00:03:00] So that's why I decided to join this organization.

[00:03:04] So it's as mentors and it's campaign manager and social media.

[00:03:07] It's beautiful. That is absolutely beautiful.

[00:03:10] How long have you been mentoring mentoring?

[00:03:13] So here's the thing I was a mentor in 2013 and I did this as like it was my part-time job in university.

[00:03:23] So I did that for two years and that was more like in the university setting.

[00:03:27] And then afterwards I would say that I became mentor for like a very certain institution in 2020.

[00:03:34] So it's been four and a half years over the.

[00:03:36] And of course, mentoring, I don't know if you are familiar with this concept.

[00:03:40] I usually mentor in relationship there are like six to 12 months long.

[00:03:47] And so I have like a lot of mentees in my life and some of this relationship,

[00:03:53] mentoring relationships still are alive, meaning that I still, you know,

[00:03:58] keeping touch with people that I have, the people that I have mentors.

[00:04:03] And so it's been for a half years.

[00:04:07] Wow, that takes such heart to be able to do that.

[00:04:10] You want to do that and then to consistently do that.

[00:04:13] So I commend you on your passion and your dedication.

[00:04:17] And the fact that you still have maintained relationships past the official mentoring.

[00:04:24] Mentoring, community.

[00:04:25] Period means that you're connecting with these women.

[00:04:29] And that also speaks to your heart and your passion.

[00:04:32] So thank you for that awesome work that you're doing.

[00:04:36] Thank you.

[00:04:37] How do you define resilience?

[00:04:40] So I'm going to give you.

[00:04:43] I can analogy when it comes to resilience because I like to do boxing.

[00:04:48] It's something that I have started a couple of months ago,

[00:04:51] and I do very much enjoy doing boxing.

[00:04:53] And in boxing there is a concept called like the comeback where basically like you got punched down

[00:04:58] and then you started to go into the group that they knocked you down.

[00:05:01] You fall and then you're snuck in the kick fighting.

[00:05:03] So I think about resilience in this sense of like, come back.

[00:05:06] Like I feel like you know many times in life we are there was a set back in life.

[00:05:11] We're knocked down by challenges in our life,

[00:05:13] but then our job is to be resilient to basically stand up and fight back

[00:05:18] no matter how hard the fight is.

[00:05:20] And so I think about like I think resilience in that sense.

[00:05:23] And I think that like I feel like it gives you good you know,

[00:05:27] it gives you good representation of what resilience is when you think about actually boxing.

[00:05:33] You know you're fighting with someone fall, but then your job is to like get up and continue fighting

[00:05:40] into a joined basically.

[00:05:41] Like that definition it's very visual number one's a very good visual representation of resilience.

[00:05:47] But it's also the first physical definition of gotten and how really like it.

[00:05:54] I like the fact of yes you will get blows or challenges or changes right we all will.

[00:06:02] Once we decide to step into the ring boxing or once we're here in life and you can still recover.

[00:06:10] It doesn't mean that it's over just because you took a blow.

[00:06:13] I absolutely love that. That's really awesome. Thank you for that.

[00:06:18] Tell me what major smiles today.

[00:06:21] Today, I mean the day is not over yet, but it's not over.

[00:06:29] You know what like if you ask me like what made me smile yesterday,

[00:06:32] I think I would have given your good list, but today because today is not over.

[00:06:35] I'm not quite sure, but I can definitely tell you that having this type of like.

[00:06:41] Connections like podcasts recording definitely makes me a make me smile.

[00:06:46] Because I feel like it shows that people that invite me to their show,

[00:06:52] they see something valuable in me. So it's like it makes me work.

[00:06:56] I love that.

[00:06:58] I didn't even think of it that way.

[00:07:00] I think that's really awesome.

[00:07:03] That the connection part of it. It's not just hey I'm on here and I'm talking about like it's.

[00:07:08] I'm going to tell you that I'm adding to the episode of the podcast and you do.

[00:07:13] You definitely are coming with a lot of value.

[00:07:16] And some really happy and grateful to have you here. Thank you.

[00:07:21] How do you celebrate yourself?

[00:07:24] How do I celebrate myself?

[00:07:25] How do you celebrate yourself?

[00:07:27] How do you celebrate yourself?

[00:07:29] That's a very, very long list.

[00:07:32] I would say one thing that I very much enjoy enjoying is basically investing myself.

[00:07:42] I do very much enjoy your name and I do very much you know taking time to grow from a personal perspective.

[00:07:50] And one thing that I tend to do is usually buy a lot of books.

[00:07:54] I tell myself you know buying books is investment and just you know investing my time in you know I'm missing my money in my knowledge.

[00:08:05] And so I do very much enjoy buying books.

[00:08:08] Unfortunately, but too many books.

[00:08:10] I feel like I don't finish a book I'm already like buying a second one or third one.

[00:08:16] But I don't regret any of it.

[00:08:18] I feel like it's that it's money spent really, really well.

[00:08:23] And the second thing that I also like to do is which is still along with the team of buying books is to basically take courses.

[00:08:34] And recently like I started to work on like my Spanish again and I started to like take conversation courses.

[00:08:40] And it was like my gift to myself from my birthday, which was like one for the whole.

[00:08:44] And I was like yeah, I know people always give you gifts on your birthday but why not buy one for my salary and so I decided to buy basically Spanish conversation classes.

[00:08:56] So yeah, really awesome that I think what I like about the classes that you're taking to improve your Spanish is also to open up.

[00:09:08] The opportunity to work with more women so you'll be able to work with.

[00:09:13] Spanish speaking if that's their native language or their monolingual you'll be able to work with them so I think it's awesome you're not only.

[00:09:23] Developing your brain because we know it's good to learn a second language for our brain, but also like you're just opening up opening up more opportunities for connections and I think that's fantastic.

[00:09:33] And then I have a question.

[00:09:35] Do you have a genre favorite genre of books for you just reading all the genres?

[00:09:42] No, I do have like a genre so basically I.

[00:09:48] I typically like to focus on the stuff development type of book but I do read a lot of fiction and within the fiction I like to read a lot of like children's notebooks because I feel like.

[00:10:01] I'm so true to read in history they do such a good job at like get your hooked from the beginning and it just want to keep reading it to your find out for killed cool.

[00:10:09] And so I like those that look because I feel like I am I always like to guess like who did what he'll come into the murder or something like that.

[00:10:19] So yeah, I do very much enjoy those kind of.

[00:10:21] I think that's awesome.

[00:10:22] I can relate to your.

[00:10:26] We're going to call it book addiction.

[00:10:28] I also enjoy reading I've been forcing myself to not purchase a new book until I finished the current one I'm reading and it's so hard because you see all of these great books and you're like, but I put it and I'm like no you have not finished the one you're reading you can not buy and so I put myself on a budget.

[00:10:50] I can really yeah it's it is it is for sure for sure.

[00:10:56] Okay, you wake up in the morning you're looking in the mirror.

[00:11:00] You're feeling amazing you're like oh I look good today I feel good today what song pops into your head what is the theme song that represents you at your best or a thing song that helps you start to feel your best.

[00:11:16] Okay, you're think there is not one single song that makes me know it makes me feel like the best version of myself because I like.

[00:11:28] I'm using the thing I do listen to music but I'm more into podcasts like listening to podcasts.

[00:11:35] And when it comes to music I do very much enjoy listening to any sort of music so that's why I cannot like give you one exact title but I can tell you that there is one thing that makes me feel invincible in the morning.

[00:11:47] And which is actually putting lipstick and here's the thing like I like to wear like like bold colors and even when I'm like a home let's say like could be like on a Saturday one on a Sunday even in my P. Jama I still have to work like lipstick because that's how I feel like okay I can get over today like I feel like on myself and I need to put that color lipstick to make sure that I'm like the best version of myself you know the answer I am more into like.

[00:12:17] That's the first thing I do when I like we have become myself in the mirror like I have to do there could be worse things I think that is really really good what have you learned about yourself recently what have I done myself this is like yes but it's a question it's a little bit of what did I do I don't know if I like it's something that I have learned but it's something that makes me a bit more aware of is okay his things so it's like every year.

[00:12:47] I write like it to do not it to do this I could call setting okay do I make it this up my goals.

[00:12:54] And the and basically what happened is I usually tend to complete on my goals but I'd never visit them.

[00:13:00] It shows that they are like I've written like a write down on the community year and then I will be standing at the end of the year.

[00:13:06] So I never like I don't completely remember what I wrote but then at the end of the year what happened is when I go back and look at them I am like oh yeah I've done a lot of this.

[00:13:15] And however this year I do remember what I have to do and one thing that made me aware of my let's say of this process is that like the whole summer has been away and I feel like I've not been working on my goals.

[00:13:32] But then now there are three months left and I'm like the years now over so I still have time to work on my goals.

[00:13:38] So one thing that I learned of myself is that you know it's never to late.

[00:13:43] It's never to let everyone achieve something they ever want to do something like the years now over and so I can start anytime I'm working on my goals.

[00:13:50] So now what happened is I like Spanish for instance one of the goals that I had written.

[00:13:56] I actually have this industry to work on it and with an actual teacher so I'm telling myself you know I can still achieve this goal no matter what.

[00:14:05] And so that's one thing that I have learned on myself.

[00:14:07] Like that and I think that's a good skill thought process lesson for a lot of us is one having grace and saying oh it's not too late.

[00:14:19] It's never too late as long as there's a live it's not too late. We're not too old right we're not behind.

[00:14:26] We can see all do things that we deserve to do regardless of where we are in our lives.

[00:14:30] Yes, I love that and that is fantastic and thank you so much for sharing that.

[00:14:35] That's really really a good one.

[00:14:38] What brings you joy?

[00:14:39] What brings me joy?

[00:14:41] I would say you know what because I have mentors so many women and I've been in contact with so many women especially like young girls who are basically studying university or wanting to start a career in.

[00:14:58] Like in the job market, I would say that it makes me really happy when I see that they're able to achieve their own goals.

[00:15:07] Like they're able to you know, tap into their potentials and it makes me happy to see that my input or my guidance has made an impact in their life.

[00:15:20] So it just makes it see that I the work that I'm doing is pretty valuable and so that makes me really happy.

[00:15:26] I like that that's good to be a bit of get that reinforcement or that reassurance that the work you're putting in the passion you're sharing your heart, your dedication to sharing.

[00:15:37] Be able to see those rewards. I really like that. I think that's awesome. Okay, so we've established that you are a pretty organized and a visual and you get things done right when do you let your inner child out when is it the fun to play the silly if it's silly whatever it is for you.

[00:16:01] What does that look like when when do you feel safe doing that is it at home? Is it with your friends, is it with your family so for me I'm pretty serious most times.

[00:16:13] But when I'm with my oldest and my bonus daughter I'm completely silly and the people who seem in a professional setting would not even recognize me because I'm so silly. Do you have times where you're just able to let out that inner child.

[00:16:28] Yeah, I would definitely say when I'm with my family members like my sister, my sister are you know, my niece like with these people like I feel like it can be myself and then you see like crazy.

[00:16:42] I'm a crazy version myself especially when I have a microphone and I'm like doing karaoke. That's when you see like the word cited me.

[00:16:51] And then I'm able to be also myself when I am with my Italian friends because I grew up in Italy and was suffering from Italian.

[00:17:00] And so I felt like among them, I can be silly. I can be stupid and I was actually telling this to someone that I can be busy silly amount of my time in friends and I know one be a judge and I feel like I can say whatever I want and we will have a good laugh out of it.

[00:17:17] Yeah, exactly that I think we all need that sometimes we get so caught up in art to do lives.

[00:17:25] Yeah, things that are going on in life, we forget to like tap into that inner child that can help us heal and relax and recharge and so I love that you have that space in that opportunity.

[00:17:39] Do you have suggestions for someone who hasn't yet learned to tap into that or connect with that silly side goofy side awkward side whatever we want to call it that kids side.

[00:17:54] Do you have advice for someone who hasn't learned how to connect with that side of themselves?

[00:18:00] I think when it comes to connect with that side of yourself, you have to choose the right people to do that.

[00:18:09] Like I think like you know some people you can be silly or stupid and so for because people will think you know you are like people will not recognize you and you know people tend to be a really judgmental.

[00:18:23] But I would say like try to identify the right circle of people I think that's the most important.

[00:18:31] Like who are the people that you can be your most genuine, genuine version of yourself, you can you know really open up yourself without being judged and then I would say like try something funny with this people and see like where it can lead to be sick.

[00:18:51] So I would say probably that would be my advice.

[00:18:54] And it's really good. I feel like what I'm hearing you say is make sure you have the right people around you who are going to support you in your silly mess and even join you within it, right?

[00:19:06] And if you don't have it yet in your slowly building it like just test the waters a little bit and see how they react and see if they are comfortable being silly with you or just accepting your sillyness.

[00:19:21] Am I understanding that correctly? Yes, that's exactly.

[00:19:25] I think that's good. I love that.

[00:19:28] While we're thinking in the topic of sharing your expertise and your knowledge and your wisdom, what advice would you have for a person who has not yet connected to their resiliency or their resilience.

[00:19:45] What advice that you have for them on either how they either don't think they're resilient or they haven't connected to it yet for its identify points where they have been resilient.

[00:19:53] Yeah, I think it's when it comes to resilient. I think it's a common thing that a lot of people think, you know, I think when it comes to like not being resilient. It's a very common thing like if you like we see a failure and we just feel the motivated discouraged but I think when it comes to resilience, you should see like your just at back as temporary or you know new deviating from your goals as really like a temporary

[00:20:24] Detail, basically and learn from these detours so that you can come back with stronger determination with a you know, renewed focus. I think that's the most important thing like getting

[00:20:37] At the end of the day, yes, it's hard to get the destination but never forget what you're in goal is because I also see it from with myself too. I see that you know there were times right failed in many things there were times where I thought really discouraged but I think

[00:20:56] You show yourself or you show like a good treat to have is to be a good thing in general. Like it doesn't matter how many times you fail, it's more important for the Hamiltonians you get back up, you know.

[00:21:10] And so I would definitely say like always learn from your lessons and then just just move on, just move on with like determination. I would say that's that's the most important thing when it comes to resilience.

[00:21:24] So say yes, absolutely. So what I'm hearing in our conversation thus far is that you do a good job of having this theme throughout your answers and I love it because you said see it as a detour which also goes into what you say earlier about it's never too late.

[00:21:42] So yes, one of these detour and may take a little bit longer to get to where we want or to achieve our goals. It's fine because it's never too late, which is what you said earlier so it's fine to go on a detour just going to take us a little longer or in a different direction because sometimes we have the pivot we think our goals are I want to eat six bananas every day and like oh no that doesn't agree with me. So then we pivot our goals are and like maybe two isn't all right.

[00:22:08] And so I love that that thing that you're going in and it's never too late and just co just relax give yourself some grace and I love that you mentioned there are times where you did not have success and you didn't give up because sometimes we also compare ourselves to others.

[00:22:27] But we only see there in result. We don't see all the ups and downs that they went through to get to that in result and so I love that you're normalizing that there will be times where we aren't successful.

[00:22:44] Because we can talk about what success means right or we didn't achieve our goals as fast as we wanted to or doesn't look like we wanted it to but you either and then you also sit learned from it.

[00:22:56] So you review and you say is this still something I want and then you keep going because it's a detour or you reassess.

[00:23:03] I think that was an absolutely wonderful answer and I am just getting us some magic of this mentoring brain of yours and I think it is awesome because I'm loving this.

[00:23:17] Yes. Tell me something that you are proud of.

[00:23:25] I'm so far with my achievement because I feel like when it comes to my professional life.

[00:23:33] I feel like I've completed a lot of you know, designations and finance. I feel like I am what I'm supposed to be when it comes to my job.

[00:23:42] Because I do work in a company that I always wanted to work for and then even in my personal life. I'm happy that I am finally proud of the organization that I always wanted to part of like you know things that I wanted.

[00:23:56] Like I always wanted to support women's empowerment and there was so many organizations that I tried to join and rejected but then I ended up being in better places, you know.

[00:24:05] So I am happy about that and I'm happy you know the things that I have completed you know it's a publishing a book or a new app radio channel.

[00:24:16] Because I feel like everything that I've done so far was also like exploring myself and I was never sure how much I was going to do.

[00:24:26] So for me to even like discover myself and the potential that I have with Dean was also like a, to self exploration. So that's that has been like a beautiful journey so far.

[00:24:38] I love that. Did you slip in there that you published a book?

[00:24:42] Yes, please tell us more about that.

[00:24:45] So I published my first book two years ago and basically it's called the Scumrier Dented Year book from Interations Travel.

[00:24:56] And basically and the book I talk about my life in Italy so I am a member of the McColley World Lab.

[00:25:04] And so I thought I do a comparison between the two cultures and how he was to meet two basically not able to fit in or never fit in and that was enough.

[00:25:14] And so I talk about that from perspective of the Saltation Movement and so I talk about a little bit my experience being a total culture.

[00:25:23] Okay, it's a great fit to me.

[00:25:24] Can you share a little bit from the book about how you started to develop that sense of I am enough.

[00:25:36] How did just we don't want to run it for people who is one people to get the book and I know you shared about how, but if you could just give us a little snippet about it that would be awesome.

[00:25:45] Yeah, so basically how I came to that conclusion it was mainly by doing a lot of inner work and also having a lot of open dialogues with people about it.

[00:26:00] Like how I felt about it, I thought like I was never understood but then again I chose to write people to talk about this like there were other people that were similar.

[00:26:11] Like being in terms of like having multiple ethnicity and talking through that with them helped me to see myself more like an asset and not as a.

[00:26:30] You're from and they're able to give you one country, but then like for me was not the case.

[00:26:36] Okay, I was I have to explain myself. I was a little bit on my story which was a little bit annoying sometimes because I feel like I just had to spend three minutes telling people, you know.

[00:26:49] I am born in a certain country, my friends are from another country, I live in another country and so it was after like a lot of inner work dialogue that I finally came to see myself more like.

[00:27:02] You know, I am a little bit of both and I am enough the way I am and I see myself more like as an asset like not able to bring multiple perspective.

[00:27:14] I'm able to see myself as a global citizen, I'm able to speak multiple languages so that's how I came to that conclusion.

[00:27:22] That's beautiful. Oh my goodness, that's absolutely beautiful.

[00:27:26] I think that I'm hearing you say.

[00:27:30] And directly time and time again that I wouldn't love for you to share, and I don't know if you've even given this any thought.

[00:27:36] But a couple of times now you've shared about how you've had the right people around you and earlier we talked about how important it is to have the right people around you if you want to feel that that that that silliness that true your true self.

[00:27:50] But I think I want to back up a little bit to talk about how do you do that because it sounds like you've done it successfully and not everyone has.

[00:28:01] How do you get the right people around you can please share that yeah, I'm with an intention that it happened by accident.

[00:28:09] Yeah, I don't know if I if I didn't have right because it did have also friends walking away for me. So it's still a learning process like it was a learning process and I'm also I also have a little bit of our time always trusting people but it.

[00:28:26] It's the way I chose the right kind of people it's it's based on many factors like some of them are people that I have known from a high school time and it's been you know 15 20 years and I'm still friends with these people that are not physically in the same country.

[00:28:46] That I live like they don't physically leave me my same country but I still talk to them as they do and I feel like after getting to know them for a very long time I feel like we have built trust with each other.

[00:29:01] And the same goes also with the people that live in Canada, which is where I live right now like always.

[00:29:09] I always analyze people I'm always analyzing people and I don't I don't open up myself is there so I analyze people I take time to get to know them and see if these are the right kind of people you know always look for people that are open minded but also look for people that are willing to improve themselves who are willing to take time.

[00:29:31] To invest in themselves and I also look for people that share my same values and I feel like that was that that is something that makes us connected.

[00:29:39] And I also have learned from some.

[00:29:41] I feel like there are people that are not happy celebrating my successes and that's when I realize that those are the kind of people that you want to stay away from like I think good friend is someone who's willing to.

[00:29:56] And I know celebrate your achievement and be happier for achieve me rather than walk away because they are feeling jealous and and yes and I think that's very toxic.

[00:30:05] That's the toxic and I think when you see those kind of signals is also time for you to cut the ties.

[00:30:12] And so I had situation like that people that I have considered the right kind of people but then they turned out that the moment I'm sharing you know something good of myself they're not happy about it and that's when I was like.

[00:30:25] That's okay, I you know whether we'll be someone brought it to a question.

[00:30:28] Thank you for sharing that I appreciate your openness in that answer because you were vulnerable to say hey now all of my relationships worked out I have been hurt in some of my relationships have lost relationships.

[00:30:40] Because again for anyone listening and setting a realistic standard to say hey not every relationship will work out it's kind of that trial and error.

[00:30:49] And so I thank you for that and then I also love that you touched on basically boundaries and go on into relationships with your boundaries you're like hey I know these are the things I want to want you to have.

[00:31:01] You want to I want you to value the same things I value I want you to be kind whatever your you know your boundaries are and I want you to celebrate with me and if I'm feeling like you're not celebrating with me and you're not coming from a positive space within my boundaries I am comfortable ending this relationship.

[00:31:19] And I think those are very very valuable lesson pursuing and maintaining healthy relationships and so I thank you so much for for both sides of that coin and not just saying hey hero the good things but also here's some of the not so good things.

[00:31:36] And here is how I grown and learned from that because you said a little trial and error so this is how I grown now continue to grow right and so I I'd love that answer thank you that's very very.

[00:31:50] Thought provoking very practical thank you I appreciate that what is the healthiest thing you've done for yourself.

[00:31:59] The healthiest thing yes. So the first one is putting boundaries which we already talked about I think it's something that I have learned as I became much older and I realized that putting boundaries actually healthy and putting healthy boundaries is actually healthy.

[00:32:18] So that's one thing that I have learned and that's for my mental health and then from from a physical point of view definitely like working out to bring around.

[00:32:32] Doing high intensity workout is also like another healthy thing that I have done for myself. I think like physical and emotional mental health and mental health and all go like.

[00:32:44] Oh my goodness I could pretend that all day I think sometimes we.

[00:32:49] Think that physical health is more important than mental health and our mental health definitely can impact our physical health so I would agree with you 100% what would you say for people who are trying to.

[00:33:02] Start on that journey of being healthier with their physical and mental health I always suggest I am so.

[00:33:10] Such a big advocate of going at therapy oh my goodness.

[00:33:14] I am like go see it there but I get there but go see their best they're going to help you.

[00:33:19] But there's different approaches right to growing and being healthy and doing your inner work so for you.

[00:33:24] So I'm going to close you suggest for where would they start so kickboxing is a little bit much for me.

[00:33:31] I so where would wherever do suggest a person who wants to do that I want to be more physically healthy and.

[00:33:37] I want to be.

[00:33:39] I mean so we healthy what would you say yeah so here's the thing I feel like if it comes to physical health.

[00:33:46] It's a trial and error as well because and I'm talking about this from personal experience because I tried.

[00:33:53] I tried you know yoga pilatas I tried boxing white high.

[00:33:59] I worked out like.

[00:34:02] I don't like about the I tried many things and there were things that really worked really like work really well and other things that didn't work.

[00:34:09] And one thing that I have re-revented on myself is that I like high intensity workout and so I think it's like when it comes to that like if I had to give a suggestion to someone I would say try.

[00:34:20] I have a thing and find the right fit.

[00:34:22] For instance I'm not someone who likes to let's say yoga because I feel like I'm falling asleep or plastic with like I'm falling asleep.

[00:34:29] I need that little kick you know and so it comes to trying different things and find the right thing that makes you feel.

[00:34:37] The best version of yourself that's the first advice I would give there are people who very much enjoy meditation as well.

[00:34:45] I feel like I'm not able to stay connected and you know it's I think it's a long process when I'm some meditation something that you're quiet with time.

[00:34:55] But I definitely say try different things and find the right fit.

[00:34:58] Yes.

[00:34:58] I like that.

[00:35:00] And then when it comes to mental health use talk about therapy and I definitely suggest that therapy is a good way.

[00:35:07] But I would also say that for people who do not want to do like therapy there are other ways and one of them is for instance, journaling which is one thing that I do as well.

[00:35:18] There are two types of journaling like you can journal like once a day before you start the day or maybe like at the end of the day and you'll be with 25 minutes.

[00:35:28] I literally five minutes they have five minutes guided journal where you just type like write down what are the things that you have accomplished today, what are the things that you're happy about.

[00:35:36] What are the things that you're grateful about and that it's literally five minutes or you can also have an actual like notebook and just write down how your day was you know like them.

[00:35:48] When you have a diary and say you're diary today I've done this list and that if you can do that tactical work and I think that really helps you.

[00:35:56] I would you mental health I think it makes me more like mindful about how your day was in a cerebral present and so I would say that that would be like my other advice.

[00:36:06] I think that is very sound advice. I actually do both. I see my therapist and I do a little bit of journaling probably not every morning.

[00:36:16] Sometimes I'm happy about a bed and start on my day but I think that I do have the intention of journaling more regularly.

[00:36:25] So thank you for that inspiration to get back to it and to try to be more consistent with it. I really appreciate that.

[00:36:31] And I agree with you that there are different ways, almost into the ways of improving your mental health, decreasing your stress.

[00:36:41] I agree with you and I love that you said just try different things until you see what works for you as a meditation is it yoga is it is a journaling.

[00:36:51] There are so many different things and just try them be open and willing to try different things until you find out what's your fit. So that's really good.

[00:37:00] I enjoy this conversation like you really gave very thought-provoking very on as open answer and I really appreciate that and I want to thank you so much for making time for me today to share this passion of yours to share your commitment

[00:37:20] to empowering women. I love that. I freaking love it. I think it's awesome. Thank you so much.

[00:37:27] I hope this episode gave you some tools to connect with and increase your resiliency. I'm proud of you. Let's keep up the moment of following resilient life on your favorite podcast platform and on YouTube at Resolute in Life Podcast until next time.

[00:37:44] Be kind to yourself and others.